Our first retrospective review, brough to you in glorious MSN transcript!
   Britta says: (22:12:42)
  hi
  Jim says: (22:12:48)
  Hello!
  Jim says: (22:12:58)
  Hiding off line, I see
  Britta says: (22:13:03)
  yes ^__^
  Britta says: (22:13:07)
  bwahahaa
  Jim says: (22:13:21)
  Anyhoo, let me begin by introducing the concept of the Retrospective Reviews
  Britta says: (22:13:25)
  k
  Jim says: (22:14:15)
  Well, the feelings a film creates, and the general impression, are probably best judge by what people remember months after
  Jim says: (22:14:27)
  If you still think a film is awesome after 6 months, chances are it was
  Jim says: (22:14:54)
  So we're here to review films we watched a while back without revisiting them
  Jim says: (22:15:12)
  All ignorance is completely genuine, folks
  Jim says: (22:15:54)
  Well, we're here to review James Cameron's multi-million dollar blockbuster Avatar
  Britta says: (22:16:09)
  which was damn good
  Jim says: (22:16:10)
  And as I remember, Britta saw it about a month before I did
  Jim says: (22:16:13)
  Indeed
  Britta says: (22:16:22)
  with my family ^_^
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  So I think you should give me your low down before my horrible, bitter, cynical viewpoint butts in
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  La de da :P
  Britta says: (22:17:02)
  and then I insisted Jim see it with me, gave me an excuse to see it again :P
  Britta says: (22:17:25)
  ok, well I thought it was AMAZING and it is the only film I can remember coming out of feeling so strongly about it
  Britta says: (22:17:38)
  everyone was having to adjust back to reality
  Jim says: (22:17:39)
  Oh, so that was why?
  Jim says: (22:17:47)
  Selfish beeyatch
  Britta says: (22:17:52)
  and feeling a little dissapointed to have to do so
  Jim says: (22:17:57)
  Aww
  Britta says: (22:18:13)
  nooooo because it was awesome and I thought you'd want to enjoy the awesomeness too
  Jim says: (22:18:17)
  Did you want to be a Nar'vee?
  Britta says: (22:18:21)
  YES
  Jim says: (22:18:25)
  LOL
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  To be honest, who wouldn't?
  Britta says: (22:18:37)
  tiny humans are rubbish in comparison
  Jim says: (22:18:48)
  That reminds me of one of the cutest moments
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  at the end?
  Jim says: (22:19:12)
  When Jake's alien squeeze came and rescued his little human body from the caravan in the woods
  Britta says: (22:19:18)
  yeah :)
  Jim says: (22:19:27)
  Little human man! He so small!
  Britta says: (22:19:36)
  and she managed not  to recoil in disgust
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  I keep him as pet.
  Britta says: (22:19:40)
  haha
  Britta says: (22:19:50)
  not that humans are disgusting
  Jim says: (22:19:52)
  He was cute! About the only time he was, mind you.
  Britta says: (22:20:12)
  but if you've fallen in love with a big blue thing it's weird to see the little pink thing that he really is
  Jim says: (22:20:17)
  Okay, something really freaky about the cuteness factor...
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  Heh. little pink thing eh? ;)
  Britta says: (22:20:27)
  hehe yeah :P
  Jim says: (22:20:38)
  I might prefer a big blue thing, its true
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  Anyway
  Jim says: (22:20:48)
  As you know, I like Sigourny Weaver
  Britta says: (22:20:52)
  yus
  Jim says: (22:20:53)
  She am pretty
  Britta says: (22:21:05)
  she am strong like cheetah
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  And all natural, as we found out watching alien
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  :D Cheetah with a gun
  Britta says: (22:21:23)
  tiny pants ^_^
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  hehe
  Jim says: (22:21:31)
  Huge..er..foliage
  Jim says: (22:22:02)
  Anyway, if someone had asked me what I would have said if I saw a 12 foot tall muscular blue Sigourney weaver
  Jim says: (22:22:06)
  I would have said...
  Jim says: (22:22:10)
  Well, probably nothing
  Jim says: (22:22:16)
  I would have just collapsed on the floor
  Britta says: (22:22:20)
  just fainted from lack of head blood?
  Jim says: (22:22:27)
  Yes, exactly
  Britta says: (22:22:31)
  hmm
  Britta says: (22:22:40)
  so what did you think when you saw her?
  Jim says: (22:22:49)
  I was FREAK-ED OUT.
  Jim says: (22:22:58)
  Her Narvee really hits the uncanny valley for me
  Jim says: (22:23:15)
  Especially the way her legs move, for some reason
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  Is weird
  Britta says: (22:23:35)
  I never noticed any strange leggage
  Jim says: (22:23:49)
  But on the other hand, I actually found Jake's Nar'vee quite sexy.
  Jim says: (22:23:58)
  When in reality he is a potato-faced squadie
  Jim says: (22:24:13)
  The Strange Leggage of Sigourney Weaver
  Britta says: (22:24:13)
  yeah I agree he was attractive
  Jim says: (22:24:17)
  In Cinema's Now!
  Jim says: (22:24:39)
  Maybe all ugly people are sexy as Nar'vee
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  And all sexy people are weird
  Britta says: (22:24:54)
  maybe his face just suited it better
  Britta says: (22:24:57)
  meh
  Jim says: (22:25:11)
  His face definitely suited being something different
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  You're being mean
  Jim says: (22:25:22)
  Poor potato faced Jake
  Britta says: (22:25:24)
  he's not that unattractive
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  you just don't like that he's a soldier
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  Like the incompetent carvings of a drunken toddler
  Jim says: (22:25:48)
  Yes, I really am being mean
  Jim says: (22:26:03)
  He is fair looking, and I do dislike the military mens
  Jim says: (22:26:25)
  Especially that guy in the film, actually
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  The Colonel, or whatever
  Britta says: (22:26:34)
  the main bad guy?
  Jim says: (22:26:36)
  Yeah
  Britta says: (22:26:47)
  yeah he's far too muscly and gross
  Jim says: (22:26:52)
  I mean, I know it is supposed to be a simplistic, easy-to-engage with story
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  And so it has douchebag bad guys
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  But he was a MASSIVE prick
  Jim says: (22:27:23)
  For 2 english pence, I would have put out his remaining eye
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  With my thumb
  Britta says: (22:27:31)
  not for freeeeee?
  Jim says: (22:27:41)
  Well, even evil has standards my love
  Jim says: (22:27:48)
  And I am, as we all know, very evil
  Britta says: (22:28:10)
  I suppose the 2p would pay for being squeamish about putting your thumb in his eye socket
  Jim says: (22:28:24)
  Yeah...although eyes are quite tough
  Jim says: (22:28:33)
  Enough of this grossness
  Jim says: (22:28:41)
  What else do you remember from the film?
  Britta says: (22:29:05)
  It was very beautiful, all the glowing fluorescent jungle scenes especially
  Britta says: (22:29:52)
  and when he's gone small and scrawny from lack of real-life exercise it was a good contrast between the reality and the fantasy
  Jim says: (22:30:20)
  Yes, I have to agree the jungle was amazing
  Jim says: (22:30:46)
   The level of care was up to Dark Crystal standards
  Britta says: (22:30:20)
  and I liked the fact they had to learn their language
  Britta says: (22:30:40)
  and not just have the aliens learn English, or have a universal translator
  Jim says: (22:30:52)
  Yeah, good point
  Jim says: (22:31:05)
  Slightly better sci-fi elements than most gave it credit for
  Jim says: (22:31:39)
  What about the 3D? I seem to remember you were all for it, like a big populist sheep would be.
  Britta says: (22:33:09)
  The 3D was good. I thought it worked well and I remember saying it was the first film where the 3D actually blended into the storytelling and didn't seem like a gimmick like in Coraline or Monsters vs Aliens
  Britta says: (22:33:53)
  I mean it didn't blend perfectly, but it seemed like film-making was on the path to incorporating it in a better way
  Britta says: (22:34:34)
  like I'm sure when colour and sound first came out it didn't feel natural, but now it's a part of every film
  Jim says: (22:34:37)
  That is a good way of looking at it
  Jim says: (22:34:49)
  Although I genuinely can't see 3D becoming like sound and colour
  Britta says: (22:35:14)
  maybe not quite but certainly not a jolting intrusion
  Jim says: (22:35:23)
  Because sound and colour are part of our world, whereas 3D on a 2D canvas will always be unnatural
  Jim says: (22:35:28)
  Hmm...
  Britta says: (22:35:42)
  what did you think of the 3D? as I recall it gave you a headache?
  Jim says: (22:36:25)
  Not a headache as such...as you know, I had a lot of trouble with the 3D...I find the glasses uncomfortable anyway, but at the time my eyesight had got very poor, I needed a new prescription for my own glasses and so I had to sit right at the front. It made my eyes ache.
  Jim says: (22:36:54)
  I'm trying not to be 'cooler than thou' but I really only noticed the 3D when it was irking me
  Britta says: (22:36:54)
  Sitting at the front makes your eyes ache tis true :(
  Jim says: (22:37:23)
  :P Having strobing images 10 feet wide makes your eyes ache
  Jim says: (22:37:34)
  I would much rather have seen it in 2D
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  And look forward to doing so when we get it on DVD
  Britta says: (22:38:03)
  me too ^____^
  Jim says: (22:38:24)
  Obviously, there's not much to say about the plot that hasn't already been said
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  And even then people go on bout it CONSTANTLY
  Britta says: (22:38:44)
  yup. pretty predictable. let's move on
  Jim says: (22:38:56)
  I did want to make a point about it as an allegory, though
  Jim says: (22:39:32)
  Because people often equate it to the plight of indigenous cultures vs. the imperialists
  Jim says: (22:39:46)
  But it doesn't really hold up like that for one simple reason
  Jim says: (22:39:58)
  That being that humanity do not trade with the Nar'vee
  Jim says: (22:40:09)
  And conversly, that the Nar'vee don't want our stuff
  Britta says: (22:40:13)
  well they want to
  Britta says: (22:40:24)
  they try to find stuff the narvee will want
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  but that doesn't work
  Jim says: (22:40:33)
  This is so
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  But it just doesn't hold up historically
  Jim says: (22:41:21)
  From the Native Americans to the Aboriginals and the South American peoples, the natives have ALWAYS wanted what the invaders offered
  Britta says: (22:41:27)
  ooooooo I think in a sequel the narvee should use the technology to walk around as little tube-grown humans!
  Britta says: (22:41:44)
  yeah that's true
  Jim says: (22:41:48)
  In fact it was often the trade that softened the way to allow them to be subjugated
  Britta says: (22:41:53)
  and in this one they're perfecty happy
  Jim says: (22:41:53)
  Heh :D Not a bad idea
  Jim says: (22:42:18)
  Surely some of the younger Nar'vee would like guns to hunt with
  Britta says: (22:42:31)
  hmmm they'd be wrong to u_u
  Britta says: (22:42:45)
  they need to learn the ways!
  Jim says: (22:43:22)
  Exactly, but wouldn't that make a better film? The old ones persuading them to keep to the old ways, the young ones more willing to accept humanity's diplomacy?
  Britta says: (22:43:30)
  maybe
  Jim says: (22:43:40)
  And one more point on this...the Nar'vee aren't hippies
  Britta says: (22:43:57)
  but the older ones probably wouldn't allow humans to be talking to their children
  Jim says: (22:44:16)
  That's why the children would totally talk to them
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  Rebellion!
  Britta says: (22:44:24)
  suppose so
  Britta says: (22:44:41)
  they aren't hippies indeed u_u
  Jim says: (22:44:54)
  They are what hippies TRY to be
  Jim says: (22:45:00)
  And fail to be
  Jim says: (22:45:16)
  Hippies can't telepathically interface with horses
  Jim says: (22:45:26)
  If they could, people might like them better
  Britta says: (22:45:28)
  omg if I could be as hippyish as them
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  would be awesome
  Britta says: (22:45:56)
  yeah
  Britta says: (22:46:03)
  also take less drugs
  Jim says: (22:46:12)
  Yus
  Britta says: (22:46:26)
  (as in, they should. I already don't take any drugs)
  Jim says: (22:46:44)
  (or interface with horses)
  Jim says: (22:46:50)
  (despite what some people say)
  Britta says: (22:47:17)
  just a little clarification for the wonderful internet peoples who do not know me personally
  Jim says: (22:47:27)
  :D
  Britta says: (22:47:30)
  but what about what the horses say?
  Britta says: (22:47:42)
  :P
  Jim says: (22:47:45)
  You don't interface with them.
  Jim says: (22:47:46)
  Much.
  Jim says: (22:47:53)
  So, Avatar...
  Jim says: (22:48:04)
  Any last points?
  Britta says: (22:48:17)
  well we haven't actually heard your opinion of it yet
  Britta says: (22:48:27)
  your scathing review
  Jim says: (22:48:31)
  Ok :D
  Jim says: (22:48:43)
  Well after that build up, my review isn't scathing at all
  Jim says: (22:48:57)
  The one word I consistently used to describe it to others was 'charming'
  Jim says: (22:49:37)
  I think it is pure fantasy and pure escapism, that people who get to worked up about it in either direction have entirely missed the point of what it is, and that it is very beautiful and well made
  Jim says: (22:49:56)
  And being the sensitive boy I am, I did cry several times
  Jim says: (22:50:05)
  Like a school girl would
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  :)*
  Britta says: (22:50:38)
  so what are your criticisms?
  Jim says: (22:50:55)
  Well, the plot is baggy
  Jim says: (22:51:09)
  Its too long (my eternal criticism)
  Jim says: (22:51:13)
  Predictable
  Jim says: (22:51:57)
  But really these things are beside the point
  Jim says: (22:52:06)
  Like I said before, its not something to get serious about
  Jim says: (22:52:16)
  Its just fun; big, good looking, expensive fun
  Britta says: (22:53:03)
  ooo I've just remembered one thing I really liked :D near the end when Main Girl totally beat Soldier Mans butt, and wasn't wishy-washy and hesitaty about it.  
  Jim says: (22:53:56)
  Heh
  Jim says: (22:53:57)
  Yeah
  Jim says: (22:54:02)
  She kicked his punk ass
  Britta says: (22:54:27)
  she was practical and got business sorted out before she could go save lil pink man
  Britta says: (22:54:44)
  which I admire u_u much better than the silly girl in Halloween
  Jim says: (22:55:16)
  Poor little pink man
  Jim says: (22:55:36)
  I suppose we could go into the portrayal of disabled people in film at this point...
  Britta says: (22:55:36)
  it's ok, he gets to be one in the end :)
  Jim says: (22:55:51)
  But I am rather torn on the issue
  Britta says: (22:55:55)
  ??
  Jim says: (22:57:21)
  Well, some people complained that Jake was seen as useless when he lost his legs...others that he was actually a shining example of how disabled soldiers could rise again
  Jim says: (22:57:31)
  Either one is flawed really
  Jim says: (22:57:52)
  Although it is interesting how his Narvee body kind of becomes like a drug
  Jim says: (22:57:59)
  And his human existence a dream
  Britta says: (22:58:01)
  well I'm inclined to see it the positive way
  Britta says: (22:58:09)
  they find him something he can do, and he does it
  Jim says: (22:59:26)
  Yes, that is the bottom line
  Jim says: (23:00:06)
  As we mentioned at the beginning, who the hell WOULDN'T be a Nar'vee? If I had perfectly functioning limbs, I'd be all over that shit.
  Jim says: (23:00:21)
  Sorry human body, you're only second best now
  Britta says: (23:00:35)
  aww we could still keep it around
  Jim says: (23:00:43)
  Yeah
  Jim says: (23:00:48)
  As a spare
  Jim says: (23:00:55)
  While I'm busy being blue and sexy
  Britta says: (23:00:57)
  I feel sorry for smaller Jim body
  Britta says: (23:00:59)
  hehe
  Jim says: (23:01:11)
  Making blue love with my blue Britta
  Britta says: (23:01:18)
  ^___^
  Jim says: (23:01:31)
  And on that note...
  Britta says: (23:01:37)
  hmm?
  Jim says: (23:01:50)
  I think we ought to wrap it up
  Britta says: (23:01:53)
  yus
  Jim says: (23:02:03)
  I mean, how will be reach a higher pinnacle than blue sex?
  Jim says: (23:02:12)
  No way, no how
  Britta says: (23:02:17)
  in conclusion, darn good film, everyone must see it
  Jim says: (23:02:46)
  Yes, if only to see what all the fuss is about
  Britta says: (23:03:05)
  and then go back to your dreary little lives
  Britta says: (23:03:15)
  walking through the rain
  Britta says: (23:03:37)
  talking on your rubbish technology mobile, buying a ready-made frozen dinner
  Jim says: (23:03:41)
  Eating a sandwich. A dreary, non-blue sandwich.
  Britta says: (23:04:04)
  entangled in all the demands of everyday life
  Britta says: (23:04:12)
  why not live in a tree?
  Britta says: (23:04:16)
  in the sunshine
  Britta says: (23:04:25)
  it's warm enough that you don't need clothes
  Britta says: (23:04:32)
  everyone is fit and strong
  Jim says: (23:04:35)
  And sexy!
  Britta says: (23:04:36)
  aaaaah ^__^
  Britta says: (23:04:43)
  Jim I think you're a bit obsessed
  Jim says: (23:04:52)
  Just telling it like it is
  Britta says: (23:04:55)
  it is true that they are sexy
  Jim says: (23:05:05)
  So, yes
  Jim says: (23:05:09)
  Watch Avatar
  Jim says: (23:05:16)
  4/5
  Britta says: (23:05:22)
  5/5!